Episode 33

REBROADCAST: Public policy, systems, and us

August 15, 2025 (First released April 5, 2019): Public policy creates systems that serve the public. But, we the public are very unpredictable. So what does that mean for our policy? Rep. Tristan Toleno opens the door on a concept called systems thinking and how it can inform our policy.

Theme music by Red Heart the Ticker: http://rhtt.net

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Olga Peters

Producer and host Olga is a journalist by day and a screenwriter by night. On the Montpelier Happy Hour she combines a newshound's doggedness with a fiction writer's sense of "what if...".
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Emilie Kornheiser

Regular contributor Emilie Kornheiser represents Windham District 2-1 in the Vermont House of Representatives (that’s Brattleboro.) She always appreciates an opportunity to unpack the stories that drive us and hopes her gravestone will read “she asked good questions.” You can find more about her and her work in the legislature at emiliekornheiser.org.